Anybody here run Real Street?

[Randy 406]

New here, and really know only a few of you. I'm one of the guys responsible for getting this class started, just curious if anyone here has participated in it. If not maybe a place for some of you to race.

REAL STREET – 2009 POINTS Rules FINAL EDIT January 29, 2009

*Commercial Race Gasoline only: No Nitro, No Alcohol

(Vehicle Minimum Weights)

1. SB N/A 23 - 20 degree 2600
2. SB N/A: less than 20 degree 2800
2. SB Nitrous, Turbo, or Blower 23 -20 valve angle: 3000 and less than 20 degree valve angle : 3100
3. Canted Valve SB and BB N/A: 3000
4. ** SB Power Adder limited to Inline Valve Heads/Cast Intake
5. ** Any BB Combos limited to Conventional Style Heads/Cast Intake
6. ** Cleveland Style Heads must be used on Cleveland Block
7. ** Factory Buick, Olds, Pontiac Nitrous BB 3250


Mafia Motorsports Real Street @ Sunshine Races.. Rule Addition
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For the Sunshine Real Street Races.

Big block (Chevy, Ford, Mopar) can use single stage/spray bar plate with 1 single NOS brand power shot or super power shot nitrous solenoid. Any fuel solenoid is allowed. Weight is 3400#, any 275 drag radial, and conventional cylinder heads only. Hopefully this will help get the car count were we need it to be.

.073 nitrous jet ONLY and subject to inspection at anytime.

BOP combos can use single stage/spray plate with 1 single NOS brand cheater or equal nitrous solenoid. Any fuel solenoid is allowed. Weight is 3250#, any 275 drag radial, and any cylinder head.

.082 nitrous jet ONLY and subject to inspection at anytime. (jetting recomendation is preliminary)


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(Nitrous Specifications)

1. Single Stage/Plate system only with a maximum of one nitrous, one fuel, and one purge solenoid. Each solenoid is permitted a single orifice. Plate systems limited to 1 nitrous spray bar and one fuel spray bar, purge must exit engine compartment. Plate must not be permanent part of the intake or use fogger nozzles. 3100 lb nitrous combos limited to a single .082 nitrous jet and subject to inspection at anytime.
2. Progressive systems permitted and are allowed one additional solenoid for progressive operation only, must be inline. EFI systems are required to use a single nitrous nozzle which injects nitrous oxide into the engine prior to the throttle blade.
3. Fogger Systems or (2) Stage NOS Prohibited. These systems must be removed or disconnected/capped prior to and during the race. Failure to do so will result in DQ. *Carb/Throttle body inlet air source must originate from within the engine bay.

(Blower Specifications)

1. Vortech: YSI, T-Trim, S-Trim – or any model of lesser rating
2. ProCharger: F1, or F1A(Non “R”), D1/D1SC - or any model of lesser rating
3. Reverse rotation /forward facing blowers permitted on Ford Modular/LSI applications only. *Blower inlet air source must originate from within the engine bay.

(Turbo Specifications)

1. Maximum size of 76MM Small Frame. Boost Controllers Permitted
2. Exposed Forward facing Turbo prohibited. *Turbo inlet air source must originate from within the engine bay.

* No ducted or ram air permitted on power adder combos, fwd facing hood scoops allowed on N/A Combos only.


(Tire Specifications – Listed Sizes/Models Only)

1. P275/60/50/45 M/T, BFG, HOOSIER, Nitto or Goodyear Radial Only 100lb break for BFG



(Rear Suspension – Stock Type Only w/Coil Over Okay)

1. Split Mono or Multi Leaf permitted - NO Half Leaf/Coil Over
2. Factory Length Torque Arm on 3rd/4th Generation F-body and GNX permitted
3. Rear Control arm mounting points + or - 1 inch
4. Slapper Bars/Cal Trac/Smith Trax/Slide-a-Links permitted
5. Mini Tubs/Tubs permitted
6. Shocks must be stand alone and may not be adjustable or monitored during run via electronic and/or other means. Electronic programmable shocks prohibited.

(Front suspension – Stock Type w/Coil Over Okay)

1. After market K member/sub frame okay
2. Use of spindle mount wheels prohibited

(General Specifications)

1. Mufflers required on all combinations; must be under car near trans cross member
2. Lexan Permitted. Fiberglass Allowed: Hood, Rear Deck Lid, Doors, FR/RR Bumpers
3. Carbon fiber panels limited to hood only
4. Factory Style Dash/Interior
5. No Wheelie Bars
6. N/A combos are prohibited from using any type of Power Adder.
7. Each event winner must immediately pass a vehicle review/tech/weight check prior to returning to the pits and before receiving the event purse.

[Shagwell]

I don't think there's really many hi-end guys on here, mostly just street cars. Justin from J&J posts up on naplesracing from time to time, Forrest is on here and NR but unfortunately he has to put a new toy together. Not many of the local class racers on the forums that I've found.

We'll be running 10.5 once we get the blower motor ready.

[titter]

I have been contemplating building a car for this class Randy. How are the payouts, and numbers? Also would a chassis mounted short torque arm be allowed for the 4th gen f-body?

[Randy 406]

You won't get rich on the payouts. I think it was around $700 to win. Usually 8 to 16 cars at Immokalee, and yes the short torque arm is legal. They are running in the 5.30 to 5.80 range.

Here's a link to a site dedicated to the class http://floridarealstreet.com/Home_Page.html.

also alot of talk on
http://mafia-motorsports.com/forums/mafia_motorsports_real_street_class/

[titter]

Still better than what the circle track is paying out anymore. Guess I will looking into some v6 rollers ... from the rules looks like I could build an LS2 and run it correct?

[Randy 406]

Yes you can.

[Shagwell]

I don't think you'll want the short tq arm with the kind of power you're going to need to be competitive. - The only team I know of that has been successful with a short arm(jegs unit, but with and adjustable front mount) has been Bum/Spires in their drag radial car, and even they have talked about going to a longer arm for more consistency.

What are most of the cars averaging Randy? I was thinking right around 5.30, but I haven't watched it that closely.

[titter]

If I pick up a 4th Gen F-body, I will probably just grab the BMR Level 2 Track Package. BMR has some nice products, and usually give a nice cash discount if you pick it up yourself. I will be doing my research, and talking to Greg (Chevpower) on N2S. He seems to get his cars to hook pretty well, and they are in the 5.8x range right now ... with probably enough power to get to the 5.6x. I really haven't looked into what has worked, or is working for others. 275 tire will be a fun challenge.

I love the Spires car ... looks just like my old LT1. Medium Patriot Red.

[Shagwell]

^ cool man. The BMR stuff is great. TQ arm cars are easy to make hook, but hooking a 275 and not going on the bumper is tough. That class runs a real fine line on getting the wheel speed just right; too much and it spins, not enough and it's on the bumper.

You're going to want a well-built cage and through floor frame structure. - Remember when building it, it's always better to have more chassis than what you need.

[Randy 406]

The class usually runs in the 5.3x to 5.8x range.